# New PDF T7DRA **URL:** \ **Category:** T1\ **Created:** [February 1, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562 "2018-02-01T20:15:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![clayton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@clayton](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/clayton)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/1 "2018-02-01T20:15:52Z")
Will TaxCycle be including the new form for 2017 tax season? ---
**Author:** ![james1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/www.protaxcommunity.com/james1/32/47_2.png) [@james1](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/james1)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/2 "2018-02-01T21:49:51Z")
> [@clayton](#): > > e including the new form for 2017 tax season? from my understanding the answer is yes ---
**Author:** ![mike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/www.protaxcommunity.com/mike/32/346_2.png) [@mike](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/mike)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 12:47pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/3 "2018-02-02T12:47:33Z")
See here… > [@T7DRA Changes - New Pilot Program](http://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/t7dra-changes-new-pilot-program/1491): > > When I called CRA to order some T7DRA forms, they responded with the email below. When the time comes, perhaps the connection to CRA and any printing of the T7DRA could be integrated directly into TaxCycle? Mike ------ EMAIL TEXT FOLLOWS -------------------- For the 2017 filing season the T7DRA paper forms will not be available for order. Historically, the T7DRA was ordered by you to provide your clients in order for them to make CRA payments. Over the last few filing seasons, the amount … ---
**Author:** ![harlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@harlen](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/harlen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/4 "2018-02-02T15:19:15Z")
I also called CRA to order the T7DRA forms and I got a download link today for the new form. From what I see, the information must all be manually entered on the pdf form which leaves plenty of room for error and is time consuming. Will it be possible for Taxcycle to populate the pdf form automatically? Also, payments using this form can only be made at Canada Post. Bank payments are not allowed. ---
**Author:** ![clayton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@clayton](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/clayton)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/5 "2018-02-02T17:29:39Z")
Yes I know what CRA says. I’m sure most of us has received the notice. My question is have we heard if TaxCycle will be including the pdf form in the software. It will take valuable time to open, fill and then print the form. 5 minutes times a couple of hundred balance owing T1s at whatever the hourly rate is can add up to hundreds dollars of lost income. I had a separate printer dedicated to only printing this form previously. ---
**Author:** ![clayton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@clayton](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/clayton)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/6 "2018-02-02T17:30:30Z")
Thanks James1. I hope so. Gail ---
**Author:** ![Cameron](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/www.protaxcommunity.com/cameron/32/12_2.png) [@Cameron](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/Cameron)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/7 "2018-02-02T18:36:42Z")
We want to include this new form directly in the software. We have contacted CRA to see if they will cooperate. We’re hopeful, but CRA seems to be trying to shut the software vendors out now. For instance, they are creating a new online T3010 form for charities, but they won’t give us a specification to efile T3010s. Hopefully this is not a harbinger of things to come. ~ Cameron ---
**Author:** ![harlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@harlen](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/harlen)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/8 "2018-02-03T02:07:22Z")
The CRA email also mentions that this is a pilot project from Feb 1 to July 11. Is that maybe why they’re reluctant to hand out specs? ---
**Author:** ![clayton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@clayton](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/clayton)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/9 "2018-02-03T02:39:13Z")
CRA will probably take great delight in giving us more grief again. This should have been implemented in July. What were they thinking? ---
**Author:** ![SmallBizGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@SmallBizGuy](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/SmallBizGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/10 "2018-02-03T15:56:00Z")
Oh, wonderful. How annoying!! Keep hammering at them – this is hardly “client service”. ---
**Author:** ![alcotaxprep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a698b9/32.png) [@alcotaxprep](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/alcotaxprep)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/11 "2018-02-03T16:39:48Z")
CRA decides when to listen and when to ignore. It is like a dice roll. ---
**Author:** ![clayton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@clayton](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/clayton)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/12 "2018-02-05T16:45:18Z")
They are just so helpful. ---
**Author:** ![vivayala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/www.protaxcommunity.com/vivayala/32/3285_2.png) [@vivayala](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/vivayala)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/13 "2018-02-05T22:05:14Z")
Is the T7DRA available on CRA’s website? I typed T7DRA in the search, but no luck. ---
**Author:** ![james1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/www.protaxcommunity.com/james1/32/47_2.png) [@james1](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/james1)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/14 "2018-02-05T22:24:04Z")
no it appears that they are not available any longer ---
**Author:** ![Elizabeth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/www.protaxcommunity.com/elizabeth/32/2588_2.png) [@Elizabeth](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/Elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/15 "2018-02-13T21:03:45Z")
Quick update! We **are** including a version of this form in TaxCycle. We are working on it now. ---
**Author:** ![BertMulderCGA](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/www.protaxcommunity.com/bertmuldercga/32/42_2.png) [@BertMulderCGA](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/BertMulderCGA)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/16 "2018-02-13T21:28:43Z")
Heard from the Efile Association on this issue, that the new form can also be used at the bank ---
**Author:** ![clayton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@clayton](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/clayton)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/17 "2018-02-14T15:58:59Z")
Terrific! There’s hope yet. ---
**Author:** ![BertMulderCGA](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/www.protaxcommunity.com/bertmuldercga/32/42_2.png) [@BertMulderCGA](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/BertMulderCGA)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/18 "2018-02-14T20:15:26Z")
Will be very nifty if after this pilot CRA extends this to all remittance forms that are now MICR ---
**Author:** ![paul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbe5ce/32.png) [@paul](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/paul)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/19 "2018-02-21T18:33:23Z")
Still seeing the form in TaxCycle in “Preview , For Review Only”…what’s the estimated time that we’ll be able to use in production? ---
**Author:** ![Cameron](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/www.protaxcommunity.com/cameron/32/12_2.png) [@Cameron](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/u/Cameron)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562/20 "2018-02-21T18:45:42Z")
Hopefully available in the next release. Still a few hoops to jump through. [Next page](https://www.protaxcommunity.com/t/new-pdf-t7dra/1562.md?page=2)